romney again said that he would eliminate the estate tax, the so-called death tax and went further as he has on occasion during this campaign to say that he would eliminate capital gains and interest in dividends taxes on the middle class. all in an attempt to spur the economy. shep. >> shep: carl, what's the thinking on governor romney's bounce in the polls since that first big debate? >> they are very pumped here. the romney campaign is quite excited. they say there is more to come. they're building and talking about their ground game, grassroots, 4 million people have been contacted here in ohio alone. 4 1/2 million. that's more than a third of the overall population. the polls have ticked up. romney has closed the gap, leading in some of the national polls, within the mar i didn't know of error, and in most of the battle ground states, he's either closed the gap and in a couple of cases, gone up by a point or two. these are swings in the polls. he's eliminated any bounce the president had gotten from his convention with the own bounce he got last week. with the vice presidential d